Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.1 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/16 07:24
- Name: Chong Wang <ch-wang@outlook.com>
- Correction:
1.
There are four sign mismatches:
Imaginary part: 0.0 -1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 <--- sign difference in -1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -1.0 <--- sign difference in 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 <--- sign difference in 1.0 0.0 0.0 -1.0 -1.0 0.0 0.0 <--- sign difference in the second -1.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2.
Instead of 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 <--- sign error If I choose Sz as -1.0 0.0 <--- sign error 0.0 1.0 <--- sign error Then the Hamiltonian extracted from scfout seems to be proportional to - L * S
Chong
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.2 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/17 12:53
- Name: Naoya Yamaguchi
- Hi,
As I checked it through "analysis_example", all the elements follow the law.
Real: -0.2488440 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0118783 -0.0000000 -0.2488440 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.2488440 -0.0118783 0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0118783 -0.2488440 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.2488440 0.0000000 0.0118783 0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.2488440
Imaginary: 0.0000000 -0.0118783 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0118783 0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0118783 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0118783 0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0118783 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0000000 -0.0118783 -0.0118783 0.0000000 0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0118783 -0.0000000 -0.0000000 0.0000000 0.0000000
Regards, Naoya Yamaguchi
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.3 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/20 00:12
- Name: Chong Wang <ch-wang@outlook.com>
- Thank you Naoya,
I have checked our program reading the scfout file. The comments of analysis_example.c read
""" iHks is taken into account only if SpinP_switch==3 The matrix elements are given by
up-up: Hks[0] + I*iHks[0] up-down: Hks[2] + I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) <--- Notice the sign down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) <--- Notice the sign down-down: Hks[1] + I*iHks[1] """
Therefore, since the Hamiltonian should be Hermitian, iHks[2] for the isolated iodine atom should be symmetric. However, the output of iHks[2] from analysis_example is antisymmetric. Is the above comment accurate?
Best,
Chong
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.4 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/20 00:52
- Name: Naoya Yamaguchi
- Dear Chong,
>Therefore, since the Hamiltonian should be Hermitian, iHks[2] for the isolated iodine atom should be symmetric. However, the output of iHks[2] from analysis_example is antisymmetric. Is the above comment accurate?
Please see my answers in the following thread. http://www.openmx-square.org/forum/patio.cgi?mode=view&no=2647
And, if you have any more questions, please ask me again.
Regards, Naoya Yamaguchi
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.5 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/20 02:45
- Name: Chong Wang <ch-wang@outlook.com>
- Thank you Naoya,
Do I understand correctly that this comment ("down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2])") is inaccurate? Instead, the matrix elements between down-spin and up-spin should be deduced by Hermiticity of the Hamiltonian.
Best, Chong
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.6 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/20 12:22
- Name: Naoya Yamaguchi
- Dear Chong,
>Do I understand correctly that this comment ("down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2])") is inaccurate?
Hks[3] is always 0 as I showed in the thread. So, you can get down-up elements from Hks[2] and iHks[2].
>Instead, the matrix elements between down-spin and up-spin should be deduced by Hermiticity of the Hamiltonian.
And, I got down-up ones from up-down ones with transpose-conjugate.
>iHks[2] for the isolated iodine atom should be symmetric.
It is not correct.
>However, the output of iHks[2] from analysis_example is antisymmetric.
This follows Hermiticity.
Regards, Naoya Yamaguchi
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.7 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/20 23:58
- Name: Chong Wang <ch-wang@outlook.com>
- Thanks.
I understand your method of extracting the Hamiltonian. I am merely trying to confirm that the following comment in analysis_example.c is misleading:
""" iHks is taken into account only if SpinP_switch==3 The matrix elements are given by
up-up: Hks[0] + I*iHks[0] up-down: Hks[2] + I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) down-down: Hks[1] + I*iHks[1] """
This comment is misleading because I would deduce from this comment that
<0 n down|H|R m up> = (Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]))_{nm},
where n and m are orbital indices, R is a lattice vector, 0 denotes the home unit cell. However, the above relation is wrong, instead, I should use
<0 n down|H|R m up> = (<0 m up|H|-R n down>)^*
At the very least, without talking to you, I would never know whether I should deduce down-up matrix elements from up-down matrix elements, or deduce up-down matrix elements from down-up matrix elements.
If you agree with me, I would suggest to delete the line "down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2])" in the comment and add a sentence saying down-up matrix elements should be deduced from up-down matrix elements.
Best,
Chong
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Re: Spin orbit coupling Hamiltonian of isolated atoms ( No.8 ) |
- Date: 2020/10/21 01:01
- Name: T. Ozaki
- Hi,
Sorry for causing your confusion.
However, the expression:
""" iHks is taken into account only if SpinP_switch==3 The matrix elements are given by
up-up: Hks[0] + I*iHks[0] up-down: Hks[2] + I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) down-up: Hks[2] - I*(Hks[3]+iHks[2]) down-down: Hks[1] + I*iHks[1] """ is just a symbolic one. So, the latter indexes should be treated properly so that the resultant Hamiltonian will be hermitian.
In the next release, we will modify the comment to avoid any confusion.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Regards,
TO
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