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Glycine optimization
Date: 2025/01/26 04:48
Name: dena   <daa58768199@gmail.com>

Hello everyone
I prepared the structure file of the amino acid glycine in zwitterionic format as follows for optimization and ran it for optimization.
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pecies.Number                    4
<Definition.of.Atomic.Species
  H    H6.0-s2p1        H_PBE19
  C    C6.0-s2p2d1      C_PBE19
  N    N6.0-s2p2d1      N_PBE19
  O    O6.0-s2p2d1      O_PBE19
Definition.of.Atomic.Species>

Atoms.Number                      10
Atoms.SpeciesAndCoordinates.Unit  Ang
<Atoms.SpeciesAndCoordinates
  1    N      -14.0680000    -36.8279990    22.5709990    2.5  2.5
  2    H      -14.4370000    -35.9230000    22.7810000    0.5  0.5
  3    H      -13.7530000    -36.8559990    21.6220000    0.5  0.5
  4    H      -13.3100000    -37.0379980    23.1880000    0.5  0.5
  5    C      -15.1150000    -37.8200000    22.7520010    2.0  2.0
  6    H      -15.9020000    -37.5719990    22.0529990    0.5  0.5
  7    H      -15.4140000    -37.7770000    23.7910000    0.5  0.5
  8    C      -14.6530000    -39.2330020    22.4570010    2.0  2.0
  9    O      -13.6900000    -39.2109990    22.1870000    3.0  3.0
  10    O      -15.4170000    -39.8620000    22.6000000    3.0  3.0
Atoms.SpeciesAndCoordinates>

Atoms.UnitVectors.Unit            Ang
<Atoms.UnitVectors
    18.0000000    0.0000000    0.0000000
    0.0000000    18.0000000    0.0000000
    0.0000000    0.0000000    18.0000000
Atoms.UnitVectors>
cf.XcType                GGA-PBE      # LDA|LSDA-CA|LSDA-PW|GGA-PBE
scf.SpinPolarization      off        # On|Off|NC
scf.ElectronicTemperature  300.0      # default=300 (K)
scf.energycutoff          250        # default=150 (Ry)
scf.maxIter                100        # default=40
scf.EigenvalueSolver      cluster    # DC|GDC|Cluster|Band
scf.Kgrid                  1 1 1      # means 4x4x4
scf.Mixing.Type          rmm-diis    # Simple|Rmm-Diis|Gr-Pulay|Kerker|Rmm-Diisk
scf.Init.Mixing.Weight    0.10        # default=0.30
scf.Min.Mixing.Weight      0.001      # default=0.001
scf.Max.Mixing.Weight      0.200      # default=0.40
scf.Mixing.History          10        # default=5
scf.Mixing.StartPulay      5          # default=6
scf.criterion            1.0e-9      # default=1.0e-6 (Hartree)

#
# MD or Geometry Optimization
#

MD.Type                    RF        # Nomd|Opt|NVE|NVT_VS|NVT_NH
                                      # Constraint_Opt|DIIS2|Constraint_DIIS2
MD.Opt.DIIS.History          3        # default=3
MD.Opt.StartDIIS            20        # default=5
MD.Opt.EveryDIIS          10000      # default=10
MD.maxIter                  200      # default=1
MD.TimeStep                1.0        # default=0.5 (fs)
MD.Opt.criterion          1.0e-4      # default=1.0e-4 (Hartree/bohr)

After the optimization of the XYZ file was completed, the structure was checked and converted to non-zwitterionic glycine. Can you please advise how to fix this problem?
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.1 )
Date: 2025/01/30 21:24
Name: T. Ozaki

Hi,

You performed the optimization in gas phase.
Are there any previous studies using GGA-PBE, which reported the zwitterionic form of glycine in gas phase?
A theoretical study
https://doi.org/10.1016/0009-2614(92)80116-S
reported that the glycine zwitterion does not exist in the gas phase.

Regards,

TO
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.2 )
Date: 2025/02/01 01:28
Name: dena  <daa58768199@gmail.com>

Hello dear
I did not find any article about studying zwitterionic glycine with DFT, but there is an article about zwitterionic serine that was worked with the Sista code.
https://doi.org/10.1007/s11224-019-01426-6
Did the Sista code perform the calculations in a different phase?

thanks.
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.3 )
Date: 2025/02/01 02:36
Name: dena  <daa58768199@gmail.com>

Hello dear, is it possible to send the name of the article * https://doi.org/10.1016/0009-2614*?
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.4 )
Date: 2025/02/01 22:43
Name: T. Ozaki

Hi,

The paper is
https://doi.org/10.1016/0009-2614(92)80116-S
"The glycine zwitterion does not exist in the gas phase: results from a detailed ab initio electronic structure study"
Yanbo Ding and Karsten Krogh-Jespersen

Regards,

TO
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.5 )
Date: 2025/02/02 05:58
Name: Dena  <Daa58768199@gmail.com>

Thanks alot
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.6 )
Date: 2025/02/06 00:54
Name: dena  <daa58768199@gmail.com>

Hello dear
I read the article you introduced. But in other articles, for example,https://doi.org/10.1007/s11224-019-01426-6, the zwitterion state of amino acids is used. This has confused me. Is it possible that with the advancement of functions used in calculations, the ability to calculate zwitterion amino acids has emerged?
Thanks
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.7 )
Date: 2025/02/06 09:26
Name: T. Ozaki

Hi,

The paper you suggested is about serine interacting with pristine and defected CNT, not glycine in an isolated form.
GGA-PBE was uded in the the method, and one can expect that results by OpenMX might be almost equivalent to those
if the same systems are calculated with proper computational settings for both the cases.

Regards,

TO
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Re: Glycine optimization ( No.8 )
Date: 2025/02/07 14:44
Name: dena  <daa58768199@gmail.com>

Hello dear
Yes, you are right. But since the amino acid used in the article is zwitterion amino acid, it confused me. Thank you very much for your attention.
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